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The Chief Debate Continues
Is There a Middle Ground? Some Views of the Chief.

The issue
that won't go away


By Editor, RetireTheChief

Which side are you on?

Few issues polarize our local community like Chief Illiniwek. Local statements on the issue haven't exactly cooled things down.

News-Gazette columnist Loren Tate (Sports, November 12) threw hot coals on the Chief debate with his article "Chicagoans might shove Chief away.". He stated:

  • Trustee Frances Carroll, due to her relatively new presence on the board, was "a Johnny-come-lately" with a "slim background and a large agenda."
  • Oh, and she didn't attend the U.I. Another strike against her, apparently.
  • She allegedly "doesn't appreciate downstate traditions".
  • And, to toss a gas can onto the already roaring fire, the columnist stated that Carroll "by her presence brings race into the debate".

In response, a coalition opposed to the columnist's statements issued their quite reasonable demand for a retraction and apology:

WHEREAS Loren Tate, the featured sports journalist at the News-Gazette, recently argued that it was improper for African American Board of Trustees member Dr. Frances Carroll to fully participate in debates over an issue of importance to the University of Illinois due to her race, and

WHEREAS the University of Illinois is a great university serving all of the people of Illinois, and

WHEREAS students, faculty and staff of color, who are vital to the current successes and future possibilities of University of Illinois, will accept no questioning of their "presence" on campus or limitations of their right to discuss any issue,

We therefore request that Loren Tate and News-Gazette management issue a full and speedy apology to the university community and especially to Dr. Carroll.

In the view of RetireTheChief, it is especially unfortunate when this debate becomes personal, the most egregious example being the attack on the U.I. Chancellor, which brought condemnation from many, including University administrators.

Let's look at the News-Gazette columnist's statements. Along the way, I'll stop using Carroll's name, or Tate's, because this is (or should be) about ideas, not personal attacks.

  1. The Trustee had "a slim background and a large agenda." The first statement doesn't hold water; the NG writer even stated in his column that her "resume is long and impressive." This includes her participation in the Chicago Area Alliance of Black School Educators, a group endorsing, among other things, the value of public education and local schools. I invite you to review her resume for yourself.
  2. The Trustee didn't attend the U.I. This brings back an age-old argument that Chief opponents "aren't from here" or "didn't attend school here." Well, the RetireTheChief editor did, and let's not forget that some 800 U.I. faculty and staff have stated their opposition to this symbol. There are plenty of people who are anti- (and pro-) Chief in our community.
  3. The Trustee "doesn't appreciate downstate traditions." Oh, let's just let that one go.
  4. The Trustee "by her presence brings race into the debate." This statement defies belief and reflects poorly - to say the least - on a respected local newspaper. This statement brings race into the issue. It was there all along, but the News-Gazette columnist just fanned the flames. To what end? Can we not agree that the race of each Board of Trustee member does not matter - in this matter? Nor does the race of the News-Gazette columnist. Have we not moved on from the days where we first counted race, then gender, then ideas? Could we, now, please?


    "The people who want to retire the mascot note that virtually every major American Indian organization has long called for the elimination of sports-based Indian references, as has nearly every civil rights and national church organization."

    The New York Times
    December 16, 2003


    I respect the opinions of those who support the Chief. I invite them to express their views here. I hope both sides can address the issues without resorting to personal attacks. But the Chief remains a very troubled symbol, one that divides our campus and our community and reflects poorly on a fine University.

    Isn't it time to retire the Chief? •

Guest Editorial
Some thoughts about the 'Chief'


By Thomas Garza, via the web.

Excerpts of Garza's letter appear below; please read the full letter here.

I was born in the city of Champaign, in 1956, and spent all of my formative years here in the long shadow of the University of Illinois. Consequently I have never known a time when Chief Illiniwek wasn't the personification, or the 'face', of the U of I and it's sports teams...

When I look at the controversy about the Chief from this perspective, it's not difficult for me to see why there are still so many people who simply don't understand why anyone would have a problem with him.... Leaving aside for a moment the extremely questionable taste of using a young white man dressed in, let's call it 'red-face', to portray a Native American elder, the truth is that taken entirely by himself, out of context, Chief Illiniwek is not especially offensive...

[Quoting this 'Save the Chief' site]:

"The tradition of Chief Illiniwek is a link to the past. He is filled with qualities that a person of any background can relate to: goodness, strength, bravery, truthfulness, courage, and dignity."

That has a very nice sound to it, and from what I've read on the subject, this sort of soft-focused, idealized view of the Chief is just about ubiquitous. Such lists of virtues are very common in pro-chief materials, yet nowhere in this, or in any of the other literature that I've read, does anyone mention just why they think that the Chief in particular is so well suited to portray these qualities... The unspoken assumption seems to be that: Indian chief, equals dignity and courage. Period. And since this is the case, then why not celebrate that fact, and how can we be insulting Native Americans by doing so? ...

Consider, if you will, the following question: why would the university create a fictitious character from a poorly understood and alien culture to represent them, when there are a whole host of well known and comfortably familiar icons from the dominant western European historical tradition to choose from? Why, in other words, don't we ever see a heroic Abe Lincoln simulacrum dancing around the field and whipping the crowd into a frenzy with his long, nimble legs, and characteristic stovepipe hat? Or how about a 'Fighting Pope'? Wouldn't the crowd be thrilled to see this fiery pontiff cross himself while simultaneously doing aerial splits...?

If these examples strike you as ludicrous, it's because they are. Such spectacles would be risible and more than a little embarrassing. This is because these figures have personalities and embody qualities that actually are revered and honored by the majority of students and fans, and to see a familiar and respected religious leader, or a much beloved president behaving in such a way would strip them of their dignity, and make them, and through them their respective offices, seem both comical and foolish.

Yet this is exactly what the Chief does to the image of a real Indian chief during his half-time performance, or when his image appears on everything from coffee mugs to seat warmers. And yet somehow his ignominy is perfectly acceptable to a surprising number of people who would generally characterize themselves as both open, and fair-minded...

Since the controversy over the Chief began, the university has changed a few things in order to address the offensiveness of the officially sanctioned uses of the Chief but not, I think, because they completely or collectively recognize the racism inherent in his use, but rather to calm things down and hopefully make the problem go away. In the long run however, no matter how limited his exposure, the fact that his role remains that of a symbol, a mascot, or a trademark, is in and of itself demeaning.

The Chief portrays Native Americans as one dimensional cartoons, and no matter how high the pedestal upon which he's placed, how many wonderful characteristics are attached to his name, or how honored his treatment, he's still -- and by extension so are his putative relatives -- a caricature. By using this cardboard cut-out of an Indian in such a public way, the university drowns out the attempts of real natives to express their genuine humanity, and to show their real, true dignity. It says, in effect, 'as far as Indians go, we prefer our version', and real Native Americans must continue by personal example to live down, or live up to, or simply try to ignore a stereotype that is more powerfully financed and omnipresent than the quiet examples of their everyday lives can ever hope to compete with. The sad part of it is, it should be completely unnecessary.

It is difficult enough to know who you are, without having to first stop being someone that you never were to begin with.

Thomas Garza

His full letter appears here.


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